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PostPosted: 12/01/08, 8:07 am    Post subject: video Reply with quote

Here is a link for a TV program that spotlights a DD. In it, it gives a very nice description of what a good GWP coat should be. Worth taking a look at if you are confused about coats in this breed.

http://www.myoutdoortv.com/video/video. ... O1C1ezqiA3
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PostPosted: 12/01/08, 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But terrible dog work...embarrassing. I mean get a Springer!!!!
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PostPosted: 12/01/08, 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I chose not to mention the dogs bird work......
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PostPosted: 12/01/08, 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My PC at home doesnt stream too well.
I assume that the dog was working in a very close range??

Jon,
We both know people Im sure that Train & Emphasize their dogs work in a close, wind-shield pattern.
I dont, its not my cup of tea, but I cant knock others for preferring a close ranging dog.
To each his own.

Linda Krull, the owner of the DDs & hostess in this video, owns & works 10,000 acres in SD. These arent 'planted chickens.' They are wild Phez, Grouse & Quail.
I would expect her dogs to open up with less training emphasis but still work closer in cattails and such..as you see in the video, at least from what I can gather.
It might not have been the best examply of fiery, turbo field work or the best DDs to shoot, but Kudos to her for opening up her home to display her dogs & her grounds.

if Im to knock anyone, its Tom Knapp for missing an easy Flyaway Phaz!
The Benelli Hired Gun misses a Gimme!
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PostPosted: 12/01/08, 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, dog just wasn't anywhere near steady. Ran around fairly decent, just not a whole lot of solid points.
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PostPosted: 12/02/08, 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see, thanks

Do we know the age of the dog that Linda was working?

If it was under 1.5 yrs, it neednt be steady yet, for HZP work..

Obviously, it wasnt a Finished UT dog, which she has,but didnt show that day.

As I understand it, they film for HOURS and then take 10 minutes of the footage they like..after editing
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PostPosted: 12/02/08, 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all very possible! thus, another reason not to comment on the dogs pointing.
One never knows what editors decide to show, and what they leave on the cutting room floor.

I just wanted folks to see the explanation of what a good coat is and is not.

Tis a good lesson for all of us not to jump to any conclusions without watching a dog in person many times.
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PostPosted: 12/02/08, 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just wanted folks to see the explanation of what a good coat is and is not.


Its been my experience among GWP folk that 10 folks in a room will give you 10 different answers. Overall, I think you would find more uniformity of opinion among folks who hunt a lot than those who don't. It is difficult to change opinions when something is established. It would help the GWP if more no-maintenance dogs could be successful in the show ring as well. But, its tough to "sculpt" perfection with a short hard coat. I also think the genepool for hard flat coated dogs is small and i imagine would not be the coat of choice for those that show.

The DD has gone too far the other way....seeing too many shorthairs with beards and they're starting to crack down on it. Now during the coat exam, more attention is being paid to undercoat and the loft and density of the coat on the sides of the ribcage, flanks and loin...good coat down the middle of the back isn't enough. Ratings this year at the Hegewald were unbelievably tough...with only 5 dogs out of 240 getting the highest coat rating....only ONE in conformation.

Back to the subject, for an exposee on the breed, I think I would have brought a dog with more "game".
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PostPosted: 12/03/08, 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The perfect wire coat is a marvel of engineering

Wish we had one, but we settled fior a 'Gut' and an 8.
My buddys has a 10 and is shorter & denser.

Jon, if you want better video (And I agree with your assessment of it) you may want to look at Forrest Moores video.
His has hog footage, field, water work and blood tracking work on elk in Kentucky, with KY Fish & Game.

I too, am working on a video over the Christmas Holiday on Drahthaars.
Ill post when it is complete, Should be decent, if I say so myself...
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