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PostPosted: 04/13/06, 4:06 pm    Post subject: puppy with bone cancer Reply with quote

I've got a 10 month old german wirehair pointer about 4 weeks ago right before I dropped him off at the trainer for puppy school. I noticed a bump on his sagital crest and thought it was a bump from running into something. When I picked him up I noticed it was a bit larger so I took him to the vet who x- rayed his skull after further inspection by a radiologist we deiced to have it removed and biopsied. I got the bad news yesterday -it can up cancerous. I’m pretty much devastated at this point -he's a great dog exactly what I wanted aesthetically, temperament ,intelligent, driven to hunt -just an awesome dog.
Now what am I going to do -Has anyone out there gone through this with their dog? I’m going to meet with and expert at the university of Minnesota as soon as possible to discuss treatment options . My vet said he's no expert but thinks he will have to have the bone around the area removed and replaced with some kinda plate
Am I setting my self up for more heart break? The dog has a guarantee against genetic defects. I talked with the breeder yesterday and of course he said all the other litter mates are doing great -winning trials, dog shows ect.
I really don't want to have to put my buddy down. When do I draw the line between rate of recovery -vs- cost Should I just let nature take its course - if things get really bad for the dog and the cancer reoccurs i can deal with putting him down then although I will be more attached to him then than now. If he has the operation and can hunt how will I deal with that?


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PostPosted: 04/13/06, 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Rob, that's a horrible thing for you and your pup.
Unfortunately, only you can make the decision if you can or are willing to go through what may prove to be a frustrating time. The expense is one thing, and you will have to search your heart and finances to see what you can endure.

It's unusual to see cancer in a puppy this young, never heard of one before, but nothing is impossible.

If the time comes ......you'll know it.
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PostPosted: 04/13/06, 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I am about to say will be unpopular with many people on this list (and on other lists as well). But what the h*&^, exactly popular anyway.

Your first question should be how successful treatments are for this condition. How often is a there an actual cure? IMO, many "boutique" vets are way too willing to spend our money today for conditions that are often a "no win" situation. It may be that you make this pup as comfortable as possible for whatever time you have. Unfortunately, sometimes those are the cards we are dealt--you will have given this pup its day in the sun.

I may be the oddball, but if the chances for recovery are slim, I would probably rather make a donation to disaster relief - in the name of the dog. I still put people above my dogs as much as I love them.

Go ahead and smoke me!!!
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PostPosted: 05/16/06, 2:55 pm    Post subject: bone cancer in pup... Reply with quote

Hi Rob P,

We lost our 15 month old wire-pup to bone cancer (osteoscarcoma) on March 7, 2006. We had her examined by 3 vets (one a bone specialist) and also contacted several research universities regarding possible treatments. Our pup had it in her rear leg. She started limping the last week of January. After a month of vet appointments, medications and finally a biopsy, diagnosis of bone cancer. Bottom line: there wasn't anything that could be done for her short of amputation at the hip & chemo-therapy and then there were no "guarantees" we'd have her for longer than about 6-9 months - if that. It was devastating. I'd be interested to know who your breeder is? God forbid she could be related to our pup, but if that is a remote possibility the breeder needs to know it.

All of our vets & the specialists indicated that once the bone cancer showed up on the x-rays it was more than likely that the cancer was elsewhere in the body. We received 2 pathology reports because the doctors were surprised at the initial biopsy results for a pup of this age. Sadly, the bone cancer was confirmed by all. We couldn't abide putting our pup through a major amputation and then the resulting chemo - recovery time if she made it would've been 6 months on the amputation alone. She was in tremendous pain. As one of our vet's put it - "of all the cancers she could have, this is the most painful, debilitating type". They all stated it was very uncommon (and in 2 vet statements - rare) for a pup this age to have this type cancer.

I hope your dog's bone cancer isn't of this type, but if it is I hope you will consider that it is very dibilitating and painful for your dog. As hard as it was, we know our pup is now enjoying hunting in the heavens. We have not had the heart to replace her yet, but when we do, we will definitely have another wire...
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PostPosted: 05/22/06, 2:18 pm    Post subject: Bone Cancer Reply with quote

I attended tbe AKC/CHF Parent Club Health Conference in October last year and bone cancer is on the rise in dogs and it's very lethal unfortunately. It is also genetic.

Be aware that it is genetic and ask questions about cancer in dogs before purchasing one from anyone. I think people put a large part of the environment into cancer, however, there is much research showing it is genetic by and large.

Environment plays a role in cancer, but the genetics have to be there for cancer to happen so to speak.
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