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PostPosted: 01/28/05, 1:46 pm    Post subject: Protection or Aggression? Reply with quote

Hello everyone...
I am new to this site and the GWP breed. I love having access to all the wonderful topics and knowledge.
We have had Labs, mixed breed and GSP's
and now have a male GWP.
Jeep is our female, 4 yr old, rescued, hunting GSP AND "Hot Rod" Hank is our male, 40 lb, 5 month old GWP pup.
"Hot Rod" does very well with learning - sit, stay,heel,whoa,easy. Our current problem is with Hank popping his chest out and barking at other dawgs while on our daily walk or at cars that come down our driveway. He's a 'lil Tuffy, but we don't want a fighter.
Is this a "puppy" thang? A GWP "protective" trait? An "aggression" problem starting? I really want to understand this behavior before we start formal obedience training.
THANKS for any advice ya'll can offer up Razz
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PostPosted: 01/29/05, 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of GWP's go into a "fear period" right around 5 months old. They grow out of it, BUT,,,, don't let him get away with this behaviour.

Watch him, and the moment, and I mean the moment, you see him start to puff up, or stare at the object he is going to attack, correct him and then divert his attention! Don't allow him to even start.....

If you don't stop it now, you very well could end up with a problem down the road. Don't worry about hurting his feelings!!!!!!!! Be his boss, then you can be his freind.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05, 5:26 pm    Post subject: Protection or Aggression Reply with quote

THANK YOU "dualgwp" for the heads up! Very Happy
I have worked with Hot Rod Hank very closely on his "chest puffing"...You where very correct about the "fear period". He does not do it on our walks, but he did have a few seconds when we first arrived at obedience training. It was taken care of immediatly.
Hot Rod Hank a very smart and energetic 7 month old GWP...he's quite a handful and I'm sure I'll be back
(as soon as I figure out how to post his new hunting pictures with our GSP)

BOY ~ what a nose they'll have!
HAPPY EASTER
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PostPosted: 03/24/05, 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to get my wirehair pups around dogs and people from an early age and take them every few weeks to the park where they will see a lot of people and other dogs. I just keep walking and tell them no until they learn to ignore other dogs and strange people. Given enough exposure they almost always mellow out and ignore them.
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PostPosted: 03/25/05, 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just keep giving them exposure to other people and strange dogs as often as possible. With you in control. Right now I have a 5 year old, a 3 year old, 2 that are 10 months, and 3 that are 10 weeks. I let them all out together every morning and every evening with no problems. I also run the 5 year old and the 3 year old in NSTRA where they are around a lot of people and dogs. It is very important with wirehairs to get them around a lot of people and dogs while they are growing up and even when they are adults. Kept in isloation many wirehairs will become overly protective and suspicious of strangers and strange dogs. But I have also had 2 males in the past that never liked other male dogs. The only answer to that is always have total control over your dog. And keep a shock collar on them around strange dogs if necessary. With the collar they can be taught to ignore other males.
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PostPosted: 03/25/05, 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I would like to offer you a diffentet view point. Barking at dogs while being on the leash, running and barking at cars, bicycles or even joggers... is often a sign of dominance and prey drive. This is not something which dissapears on its own and training is needed.

I know of 2 methods to stop a dog from launching at the end of the leash and barking at dogs passing by or simply minding their own business in their yard:
1- as soon as you see a dog approaching, put your dog on a sit/stay position, and talk to him: "You sit, you're a good dog, you stay here and wait, good boy..." Talk to your dog calmly up until the other dog has passed. If you feel that your dog is going to jump out of his sit/stay, simply put the leash under your foot holding it tight, while still holding the end of the leash in your hand. This way, puppy cannot move.
2- if your dog barks while passing a dog in a yard or in a car, as soon as he starts, turn around charply, while saying very firmly in a low tone voice: "NO!". Once on the other side of the yard or car, turn around and pass again in front of the dog. Be prepared to change direction suddenly once again. Repeat until your dog no longer reacts to the dog. By doing this excercise often over a period of a few weeks, your dog soon will have learnt to ignore the dogs on his path.

Also, in order to tame the prey drive, it is often a good idea not not allow your dog to play with squiky toys. Talking toys are a good alternative, they pick the dog's curiosity without exciting them.
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PostPosted: 05/31/05, 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello ALL~
THANK YOU very much for your input! It all helped him (me) to work thru
our problem.
I am Razz to announce that "Hot Rod" Hank and I have graduated from basic obediance. We won every prize / game and are 'specially proud of our "Best Trick" Award. He sits, down, rolls over and sits with hand signals.
Hank is doing very well and is quick to respond to commands. This is a very smart breed and we look forward to Intermediate Obedience ~ we must keep his mind workin' and he likes it ~ no more "puffing out" his chest or barking.
Thanks again and get ready ~

Cool Summer is here
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