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Walter & Claudia
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PostPosted: 07/07/04, 4:58 pm    Post subject: Hot Spots Reply with quote

Hi,

Arthur has a lot of hot spots and it seams that the cortison spray is not much help.
Does anybody know of a solution or fast acting creme to help with this kind of problem?

One small snag: He hates the spray bottel sound.
That's my fault because I used a spray bottel to teach him not to chase the cat around the house. Embarassed

Thanks for your help.
Claudia
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PostPosted: 07/08/04, 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All depend on what type of hot spots Arthur has.
Most hot spots are what is also known as lick sores, that is, the dog relieves his anxiety by licking himself until he creates a sore. It is no different from the child who bites his nails.
The best way to cure the dog is to manage to break the cycle. If the dog manage to stop until the sore heals totally, then, he is likely to stop, but may start again upon a traumatic event.
The way I deal with it is to put an Elizabethan collar on the dog so that he no longer can lick, until all is healed properly.

Any cream or liquid I know will work only for a short while. Furthermore, non will cure the problem. A steroid cream or spray will reduce the inflamation and nothing more.
You can also use a few drops of Rescue Remedy from the Dr. Bach, which is a natural product (mostly camomille base) aimed at reducing anxiety.
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PostPosted: 07/08/04, 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Cheerio,

Arthur is not licking the sore spots. They just happend on the inside of his front and hind legs close to the body and they look like round raw spots. They heal and come back on an other place. They are ussually worse after a hike or after running in the fields.
Do you think it might be an allergie or just a heat rash of some kind?
Does anybody else have this problem?

Thanks, Claudia
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PostPosted: 07/09/04, 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are not what is known as hot spots. They are a dermatitis.
Do they extend on occasion on his tummy? How about under his front arms?

Although it is difficult to make a diagnosis through a conversation, it seems to me that you are dealing with an allergic dermatitis. The type of allergic dermatitis which affects first the inside of the back legs, then extend on the abdomen, then under the front arms, and on occasion around the mouth, are specifically related to food allergies. A contact dermatatis would affect all areas in contact with the reactive elements and not only some.

My advice to you would be to change his food immediately. Isolating the source of a food allergy is not easy, but their is now help from many food companies. The most common dietary allergena are corn, soy, cow milk products, chicken, lamb (although lamb tend to affect the digestive tract) and preservatives. Food which are safe are potatoes, fish and turkey.
You can decide to switch food randomly and hope that your dog will not have any reatction from the new food and continue changing until you find something which appears to work well. The problem is that unless you are lucky and the first change result in success, you usually end up by upsetting your dog's intestins and/or stomach and may have to deal for weeks with diarrhea.
The second way to do it is change food and choose a food which contains no common allergens such as above noted. The success is more likely to come fast, howver, if by any chance your dog was to react to something unusual or to some of the preservatives, you will not know for sure whether in fact, you are not dealing with a food allergies but with an exterior factor, or if you are indeed dealing with a more unusual food allergy.
Finally, you may chose to put your dog on a safe diet, and either continue with that diet as you notice progress, or start adding one ingredient at a time so that you can determine what it is that he is reacting to.
In term of safe diets, several manufacturers now offers them, such as Royal Canin who makes a kibblet from "fish and Potatoes". BARF (Biologically Aproved Raw Food) aka Bones and Raw Food, is also a good choice if you purchase it with or make it from Turkey and not chicken. BARF is made of grinded 1/3 meat, bones included, 1/3 raw veggetable and 1/3 raw fruit. For an active working dog I like to add 1 cup of raw oat per 3 cups of prepered food. You can buy it frozen ready made.

Remember that your dog will have to be on the new food for 10 days to 2 weeks before you can decide whether he is reacting to it or improving. Also, getting worse the first few does is not an indication that he will not improve with this food. Finally, although the proper way to switch food is to do it slowly and by mixing the old and the new food over a period of one week, you cannot do this if the reason for the switch is to avoid food allergy. his means that you may have a dog with loose stools for a few days. However, if he continues after 19 days, then you should rule this new food out.

Finally, you should insured that your dog is dewormed and free of fleas and ticks. A flea or tick bite allergies can produce the type of reaction you are describing, and can be limited to the area the fleas are more likely to be with, such as the inside of the legs where it is nice and warm. A worm infestation can also give rise to a dermatitis, which mean that even though your dog may not have a flea bite allergy, because fleas bring roundworms on a dog, he could still be reacting in that way from the worm infestation.

Good luck and let us know how it goes
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PostPosted: 07/09/04, 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheerio, thank you for the information.

We have been to the vet yesterday afternoon to get the chip for Arthur and have found out that the spots may be an allergic reaction to tick bites. The vet found a deertick on his front leg, yuk.
But just to make sure I went through the cardbaord box today and found a box of iams treats that was green instead of red, meaning chicken and corn which Arthur has a problem with anyway.
So this might be the culprit as well.

Arthur and Simon (and I, love those carb chip treats Smile ) are eating Sammy Snacks Lamb and Rice after we had problems with eukanuba over a year ago. After we made the switch to the new food all the problems were gone. And we didn't have any since, until this happend.
So, will give away the iams treats to visiting friends until they are gone and keep a sharp eye on those ticks.

I will let you know how things are going in a couple of weeks or so.
Claudia
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PostPosted: 09/10/04, 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

just a quick update on Arthur.
All the spots have healed and he hasn't had any since.
I guess it was a combination of the treats and having a reaction to the tick bite.

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PostPosted: 09/10/04, 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news! Thanks for the update.
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